A Possible Pro FTS Server???

[dogz_uk]

Dan and I were talking about this and because server 2 seems to be (well it is dead) that we could drop the ping dramatically to say - 120 - 150???? We did talk about even lowering it to 10!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Rofl.

I think that this a great idea! We've already got S1 as the 'mental server' why not go the other way??? Those that want to play on S1 or S2 have a choice. Could be interesting to see what happens.

[Crazy_Jimmy]

do u mean (in ur drunkerd state) kicking the players above 120ping? lol

[dogz_uk]

That's the intention Jim.

[Merciless]

Sounds good to me lol, they always lag :O

[radza]

HOw would u know,u r never around lol:smiley_1512:

[dogz_uk]

ROFFFFFFFFLLLLLLLLLLLLL @ Raz vanting

[TEALE]

I have watched with Interest this little Idea and the real lack of input it has recieved......

To be able to play with good players with low Pings would certainly get me back involved in the game, I remember a tournament we did back in the day where we had singles playing it out from lots of top clans..... all had good pings it was a good challenge, Oh yes and a certain Duck won that one ......

I personally think its a great idea Dogz and its a shame people have not shown any interest in it, Maybe thats the state of the game right now....

Teale

Quote the Duck Never More. . . . . . .

[Crazy_Jimmy]

ur prob right in wat u say teale. if ya want an answer i say i agree with it

[Tinker]

I don't have a problem with it and yes it seems a good idea.

I don't have a problem with pings atm...on any server!

Is a good idead and im up for it :character0029:

[FreeSpirit]

ill agree with trace ,ive never had any probs with pings on either server and dont think server 2 should be dropped below 150 ping
i like the madness of server one and then like going on server 2 for rifle only or bashy bashy a bit more chilled, where there is a few of us you can feck about and have a laugh , thats whats important to me the laugh factor of it and to be honest i dont wanna be getting involved in this forever ping issue that seems to arise all the time --if it aint broke why fix it

[dogz_uk]

It's not about ping rate. It's to have a server where players can play the game the way it should be played. Not constantly spawn killing and using cheats. By lowering the ping we'd be able to get more European players that DO understand english and not, as on server 1, half the population of asia, persia, and outta mongolia!!!

Players that want to play on either server 1 or 2 would then have a choice. Some ppl like the manic of it all while others do like a more controlled environment :)

[virusqueen]

It's not about ping rate. It's to have a server where players can play the game the way it should be played. Not constantly spawn killing and using cheats. By lowering the ping we'd be able to get more European players that DO understand english and not, as on server 1, half the population of asia, persia, and outta mongolia!!!

Players that want to play on either server 1 or 2 would then have a choice. Some ppl like the manic of it all while others do like a more controlled environment :)

Its the population of asia, persia and outer mongolia that keeps our servers full, Having a server at 120 or even 150 will not stop spawnkilling or camping etc. For god sake we have FTS players that do exactly that so its not just a problem with foreign players.

People say its not about pings but from where im sitting it is, i dont know what this obsession with foreign players is all about.......we want FTS to be the best in the world but that wont happen with the attitude that some people have toward them. I certainly dont want to be part of a clan that discriminates against people from other countries, i want to be part of a clan that people will talk about, regargless of where they are from.

[FreeSpirit]

sorry but im being the devils advocate here --ok so it dont stop anyone using a cheat because they have a lower ping nor does it stop them spawn killing -there are a few that do that and they understand english

i dont get why call it a " pro server" in my opion (can never fecking spell that word) pro means professional

i also dont get that how people complain about the server's being empty but you wanna drop the ping on server 2 -making it an impossible mission for some of those that would like to come in with a ping of 200 and do speak english!!!

[Tinker]

Im gonna retract my last post, as havin a moment to think about it!!

One for the simple reason it don't matter wat ping u have if its 500 or 25 if ur gonna use a cheat ur gonna do it. If ur style of game play is to sit around in one spot then ur gonna do it, if u like to stay around spawn points then ur gonna do it, it don't matter wat ur ping is.

I was in server 2 last night for a good few hrs and the most amount off ppl that came in was 7...I love going in server 2 for a laugh, if i can't be arsed with the manic of server 1 i go in there and play my own type of game, either with Rifles or havin a little bashy match :D, I have had a few ppl say to me that we have the best ffa server around, so i really don't see what the problem is.
As for a pro server, wat pro's??

[dogz_uk]

Well what can I say. Discrimination/racialism. That's what it boils down to. It's been implied. I am NOT a racialist. Nothing to do with discrimination whatsoever.

I can't even make a suggestion about the servers even though I've been modding them for a while now. If these players from, er, overseas, do not understand what a moderator is trying to tell them, what is the point in moderating? I wont bother. Someone else run Brucie and mod the server/s from now on.

These players have high ping rates making it almost impossible to shoot them. Some ppl (our members) like the idea of lowering the ping rate on s2 because they too are getting fed up with server1. Not all of us have 'high end computers' at least we might stand a chance. So the suggestion of making server 2's pings lower I thought made a bit of sense. As I've said before, there's s1 for the manic, spawn killing game and then there's a dead server 2. I've even gone so far as to say ' Why not give it a try on server 2. If it don't work then so be it but at least give it a go'.

[radza]

Racist or racialist-not familiar with the word:D I agree with Tone.We should apply more rigorous rules on s2 for spawn-killing etc.It doesn't hurt 2 give it a go,does it?

[FreeSpirit]

you put a thread up and it is peoples views --why put a post up ?????? if you cant tolerate other peoples opions?

we all do not have to agree on the same issue and some of us dont that is obvious

it is down to the majority of us as whole --not one or two people!! people do stuff and some people do a hell of a lot for FTS in the back ground and some people get shit for it!
i havent downloaded over 700+ games for the arcade --just to clog up my pc for the fun of it!
some people mod servers in a different way to others for server 1 --perhaps when the fecker is full , you cant help but spawn kill as you spawn right up peoples arses

it is a fecking server ffs --and anyway it is down to dan to do what is best for the forum and the servers

no one has said that there wont be some kind of trial , dan also might try other ideas but he will always get other peoples views

moh political madness gone mad!!!!!!!!

[TEALE]

Tell me to go away if you want but you have two servers one is very quiet and that?s never changed in all the time FTS has been going.

You have the main server which has always been busy and full of every type of player on the planet since time began.

If your giving players an option as to play in a manic choc a bloc server that?s FFA and allows anyone to play on it from anywhere on the planet regardless of Lag and alongside that your offering a second server that?s controlled with a limited Ping rate, and you are looking to attract the more serious player to come in and test their skills against other good players I would think that that?s the best of both worlds.

You can harp on about Pings and Lag till your blue in the face and some will say its not a problem and others will say that it is a problem you will never satisfy or convince all parties.

Cheats will always be in gaming it is in their human makeup to do so, I am a Gay Cheater, Z is a Breakthrough Cheater, Jimbo is a cos he is so good he must be a cheater and Dogz drags his arse round a map like a canine with impetigo.

There are enough experienced players in FTS to know a cheater when they see one I feel.

When a server gets busy I think people get frustrated that they spawn and get shot repeatedly I think that happens often and it is hard to solve to make all parties happy.

I wouldn?t think it matters what you would call it Pro Server - Poo Server ? floo Server - whatever I am not bothered server - The server were the plantaginate comes to lay down and die Server.

Cant really see that it matters what language you speak when your on a low ping and let?s say Americans come in you will get lag, when we went to play a match a year ago against Sotko?s Clan the lag was unbearable for many of our team to the point many of the team just wanted to leave.

So Lag does effect the game and we have all experienced that and it is not any fun and as it?s a game I guess fun is still what it should be.

I didn?t see in the post any suggestion that there was going to be any change to the main server so cant see how it would have any effect on game play on server 1.

So to suggest that there is a problem with Dogz and overseas players is a bit dramatic since he recruited into the flock most of the recent tag wearers, Lud ? Sunat - Radza - Junio to name but a few.

So from coming along with a idea on trying a secondary server with a restricted ping to attract better players to improve the challenge of the game, The twisting things into a lower ping rate is somehow deamed Discrimination.

There is no money in this game, these players that come into the servers on the whole do not pay anything towards the up keep of said server, and mostly if you get people in a server and its busy they will stay. pending upon your style of game play.

Best in the world that?s pending what you want it to be the best at, and that?s again a broad spectrum.

I think it wouldn?t hurt to have tried a second server at a restricted ping rate and stuck it out there, would need a fair amount of planning and promotion, but it certainly wouldn?t hurt the main server and may of brought a few old schoolers back into the game and maybe some new ones.

Let?s face it it?s getting harder to get people into this game as it is The FTS Forums are generally leaning towards the snooze side of the dial.

Fresh Idea?s are always a good thing, Hell any ideas on improving the game should be treated in a positive manner in my book.

I might even reinstall my Mohaa and try to play again.

Teale

FTS Freedom to Speak 12th December 2007

[TEALE]

Freedom To Speak

You gotta love it.......

[radza]

Nice 1 Teale,eloquent as ever:-)

[dogz_uk]

Yes some ppl do do a lot in the background - some ppl actually spend a lot of time MODDING the server. Some ppl actually PLAY on the server and see what goes on. If these players that haven't played on the server/s for quite a while would like to go on s1 and get shot constantly by spawn killers, campers etc constantly for a month or two then maybe you might have a different opinion!!!! Your opinion would then be valid. Yes I am taking note of what you are saying but if you read the original post it mentions 'Dan and I' He thought it was a great idea. He even said to me that he was going to sort out S2 with all the crap that's left behind by a certain person and was going to get this idea up and running. In actual fact he's here now and told me that is going to sort it with lower pings etc.

Now one ques I ask. If it were Dan that suggested and modded the server would he be called a racist??? I feel that I have been discriminated against for voicing an opinion that Dan and I have spoken about.

FACT - Go to a server where you have a high ping and you'll shoot millions - GSK for example. Now that is the point I've been making. Hence having some kind of server for - ............................zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz I give up.

[virusqueen]

. By lowering the ping we'd be able to get more European players that DO understand english and not, as on server 1, half the population of asia, persia, and outta mongolia!!!



I think you have just contridicted yourself there.........your saying your not discriminating against foreign players, that quote there says you are........i will add that this does not make you a racist, and i have never implied as such........in my book there is a bit of a difference between racism and discrimination.

[dogz_uk]

Ok,

If anyone cares to read a previous post that I have put.

Try modding the server and tell someone that does not understand a word of english not to camp and spawn kill. A bit hard to do isn't it? Have I banned any of these ppl? Maybe one of two that are constant spawn killers but isn't that what moderating is all about?? I add that some of these ppl have come from europe. I will go to far as saying that I've contacted a couple of FTS members and warned them not to spawn kill too.

I try to be as fair as I can. However, this has nothing to do with modding. It's about the policy of FTS - Don't camp, don't hang around spawn points. How can you tell someone that does not understand english not to do that. Have your manic server - I don't care but can't .......................................zzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzz

[Tinker]

Ping ping ping fuking ping!!!!!

[sureshot]

can i just add my ten pence worth ...for what its worth.......i do or did enjoy playin the game but server 1 is so unplayable nowdays unless your playin at stupid o'clock ....some may like it and some dont ...i dont when i go to server 2 9 times out of ten its empty so anything to liven it up has to be a good thing surely????????? or maybe not what do i know..............................................

[virusqueen]

No one can possibly expect everyone to be able to speak english, the majority of the people on the servers are from abroad so it stands to reason not all of them will understand........

I fully understand that moderating the server is difficult, you seem to forget that your not the only one who can and does do it, spawn killers and campers have no skill and campers especially get nowhere on the scoreboard.......spawnkillers quite often hit the high notes but we as skillful players know that these people didnt get there through proper gameplay........

This could turn into a huge debate on whats right and whats wrong and by saying you dont care is bollocks.

Ive learnt over time that if people dont get their own way(you know who you are), feet get stamped and dummies get spat out and things then start to get heated and then it gets to where we are now. We have been there so many times before......

Im not going to stand on ceremony, im not going to sit back and watch as people stick their noses in and cause more problems.........

Like everyone all i want is a place where i can go and shoot the shit out of people, and most of all have a laugh.

Is there such a place.........mmmmm we will see

[dogz_uk]

I rest my case- The lunatics have def taken over the asylum.

[radza]

It's not about their score VQ,it's about joy of playing clean,that's all Tone is trying 2 say me thinks lol

[virusqueen]

Rad i dont think there is a server on this earth that doesnt have spawnkillers and campers......

Why am i being made out to be the bad guy here.......

Ive got an opinion and im entitled to give it and if people take offence and want to argue the toss with me well come on then.

whether its server 1 or server 2....FFA or TDM, pings 100 or 300 your going to get cheaters, spawnkillers and campers, the only way to cut out all these things is to close the servers off to the public.

A while ago there was a server run by someone called Pim.......this server was a 40 man server, anything went in there and i can tell you, and anyone else who has been in there will too, it was the best fun ever, definately a survival of the fitest, but that server was full.......all the time...could take ages to get in there.

FTS is a bit like pims server.....a lot of fun to be in when its full......manic at times, but fun none the less.....there are names that come on time and time again and thats something to be proud of.

I dont think theres such a thing as a clean game, and if there was i dont think it would any fun playing it

[radza]

Well,i must strongly disagree with u.There r clean servers in relation 2 spawn-killing at least,problem is the number of slots.Server 2 can reduce that number so u r not forced 2 kill someone at spawn-point,anyone deliberately spawning there should be kicked:-)Server 1 is sufficient for players that want 2 play with no rules.My thoughts at least.Like someone said server 2 is empty most of the time so what's the big deal.Let's have a crack at it!

[shadow]

campers, spawn killers, pings and more pings, FFS lets sort this out once and for all and put this topic to bed then we can all get back to doing what we are here for having a laugh on the forums and playing mohaas on the servers.

S1... As everyone knows 90% of the time this server is always busy, thats the way it should be otherwise we wouldnt be here,
that must prove that we are doing something right,also 90% of that time dogz is on the server modding it and im sure all will agree what an excellent job he does doing it, also not forgetting that most of our new members join from S1,so basically S1 looks after itself.

S2... Yes i agree this server is dead 99% of the time, has anyone ever been on and waited 10mins or so???
i have tried it and can usually guarantee within this time 1 or 2 people start joining then maybe a few more,
like somebody said S2 is like a getaway from the mayhem of S1, also its a different gameplay, some people like ffa and some people like team matches, we do have wars from time to time and i think a few in the pipeline, so this server is were anyone who wants to play in wars should be practicing maybe 1 or 2 times a week, all it would take is a couple of people either on S1 or on the forums to say... fancy going to S2 for a change and hey presto within half an hour or so more people join and a little mini war breaks out FTS v the rest, just the practice we need, and a good laugh, you might think im talking bullshit but thats my opinion.

We all are FTS,clan,family and good friends, we are all here to voice our opinions and have a say, arguments, disscussions disagreements are always going to come up, thats life, but at the end of the day this is only a game, a game which will not be around for ever, so lets make the most of it.

There is people who do a hell of a lot of hard work and spend many an hour making FTS as popular as it is, without them we wouldnt be here having this disscussion.
Admins are appointed to make the servers and forums run as smoothly as possible and make the final decisions on any matters which arise, even though members inputs are very useful and without members and their inputs we wouldnt be here.

Freedom To Speak

im sure this matter will be solved quickly and to the best interest of FTS

[WOLFIE]

WAW, I get a virus on my pc an it seems the whole world has gone mad... FTS world anyways... hehehe

FTS (Freedom To Speak... where? we are fuck the system arent we?> lol)

Anyway,

Ill go through this as I can...

firstly, the initial lack of opinion (TEALE) was probably down to the issue of PING... - we have been round the merry go round of ping for so long it fucking bores the shit out of me and most people - along with spawn killing and camping. However, this issue has always been regarding server one, and, this time (thank god) this idea is not surrounding server 1.... sooooooooooo.....

secondly, overseas people.... well... I applaud them - and thank them for their interest in our server and keeping it alive..... (server 1 that is)

thirdly, I thought, Dogz's idea was a good idea.... it may have potential! lets go through history here...

As mentioned, server 2 has always been quiet since FTS existed, server 2 has always been there for FTS members to have fun in - it has had many states, used for testing mods etc by Kristofook@@ when he was here... and all was done to try and make server 2 be as busy, or as (arguably) enjoyable as server 1....
To date, nothing has worked, and I have assumed that we use it for clan games and for people to try out ideas or mess around .... whitch people do.....

Note: server 2 does get bussy if people start it off (as it where, alweays has done in any state... ;) )

I respect peoples ideas, and - the pro server is an idea and we will try it.


My opinion is not of ping issue, but more that the name its self may be catchy... for example, a 'PRO' server may bring in very good players and people may join us etc... (so I better not go in there....looool :2:)

Fourthly, I hope that people's opinions do not upset one and other.... to much anyway! we all disagree with things from time to time, its natural... but lets keep our focus ;)

I have just glanced at Shadows post (while Im writing this.lol).. and he says the rest of what I was goin to say lmfao.....

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